Anxiety Transformation Therapist

London, Maidenhead & Reading

Online & Telephone Counselling Available

Helping You Move

from

Survival to Significance

With David Pender, Registered BACP Therapist

Reclaim Your Confidence. Redefine Your Future.

📞 Office 01628 769011 Mobile 07391279680

Are you feeling anxious, overwhelmed, or uncertain about any current relationships, perhaps your career, or your future and life direction, where is it really taking you? Perhaps you're navigating grief, emotional pain, or a sense of disconnection from your true self. Feeling compelled to toe the office line or adhere to a relationship's constant demands, this can stir a deep sense of injustice and build resentment. Especially when it clashes with your values, it’s not just about disagreement; it’s about the erosion of personal integrity and self-respect, resulting in high-level anxiety. When you're expected to suppress your voice or endorse decisions that feel ethically misaligned, it can lead to stress, internal conflict, and a loss of trust. Anxiety extends far beyond the mind; it’s a full-body experience that can shape how we breathe, move, digest, sleep, and even relate to others. It influences the nervous system, tightens muscles, disrupts gut function, and alters hormone levels, often without conscious awareness. Emotionally, it can distort perception, heighten sensitivity, and trigger protective behaviours like withdrawal or overcompensation. Anxiety isn’t just a thought; it’s a physiological state that touches every layer of our being.

The anxiety journey is unique to each person, shaped by temperament, life history, and neurobiology. Some experience generalised anxiety disorder (GAD), a persistent worry about everyday matters, while others struggle with social anxiety, where interactions feel threatening or humiliating. Panic disorder brings sudden, intense episodes of fear, often mistaken for physical emergencies. Health anxiety fixates on bodily sensations and the fear of illness, while phobias centre around specific triggers like flying or spiders. Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), though distinct, shares anxiety’s core: an urgent need to neutralise perceived threats through rituals or mental checking.

Intrusive thoughts often accompany these conditions, arriving uninvited and charged with discomfort. They may involve fears of harming others, doubts about one’s morality, or catastrophic imaginings like losing control, being judged, or going mad. These thoughts are ego-dystonic, meaning they clash with the person’s values, which makes them especially distressing. Importantly, having intrusive thoughts doesn’t mean someone wants to act on them; it means their brain is stuck in a loop of threat detection.

Alcohol and drugs may offer temporary relief from stress or anxiety, but they disrupt the brain’s natural regulation systems and often worsen emotional instability over time. These substances dull the nervous system, masking symptoms rather than resolving them, and can lead to rebound anxiety, dependence, and impaired coping skills. Instead of calming the root cause, they hijack the body’s stress response, leaving you more vulnerable once the effects wear off. True calm comes from regulation, not sedation from learning to soothe the mind, not silence it. Healing often begins by learning to observe these thoughts without fusion through mindfulness, cognitive reframing, or exposure, and reclaiming a sense of safety within yourself.

How we choose to respond to stress and work with it shapes not only our immediate experience but also our long-term resilience. While stress is often involuntary, our response is a choice influenced by our beliefs, habits, and emotional awareness, as conditioned by our experiences. We can react with avoidance, criticism, or panic, or we can pause, breathe, and engage with curiosity and compassion. By recognising stress as a signal rather than a threat, we open space for reflection, regulation, and growth. This shift from automatic reaction to intentional response is where emotional strength is forged and healing begins.

Responding to anger begins with recognising it as a messenger, not a monster. Instead of reacting impulsively or suppressing it, we can pause and ask what the anger is trying to protect or express. Often, it's linked to unmet needs, boundaries crossed, or deeper hurt. When we create space between the feeling and the response, we shift from blame to understanding, from escalation to resolution. We begin to avoid conflict with others and broken relationships. This mindful approach allows us to honour the emotion without being hijacked by it, transforming conflict into an opportunity for clarity, deeper connection, and growth.

Many of the clients I work with reach out during moments of personal crisis when their usual coping strategies falter and emotional overwhelm takes centre stage. These matters often involve acute vulnerability, where anxiety, confusion, or grief cloud their sense of direction. In these moments, therapy becomes more than a service; it’s a lifeline. Clients frequently share that they feel deeply supported by the non-judgmental and impartial nature of my services, noting that this safe and accepting space allows them to express their thoughts and emotions confidently and freely, without fear of criticism, consequence or dismissal. This openness fosters trust and emotional release, enabling them to explore vulnerable experiences, challenge limiting beliefs, and engage more authentically in their healing journey.

Just as physical health relies on regular movement and nourishment, mental clarity and therapeutic presence depend on intentional routines. Starting the day with grounding practices such as mindfulness, journaling, or breathwork helps regulate stress and sharpen focus. Scheduling breaks, staying hydrated, and aligning tasks with personal values sustain energy and prevent burnout. These micro-habits not only enhance performance but also model self-care for clients, reinforcing the message that wellbeing is a daily commitment, not a distant goal. It's not only the journey back to good health, but looking after yourself moving forward.

My role is to offer clarity, containment, and compassionate guidance, helping you navigate the storm with tools that restore agency and reconnect you to your inner resilience. This pressure to conform, even subtly, can erode authenticity and leave you questioning your place within your career or relationship. It’s empowering to seek clarity on what you truly feel, then act from a place of authentic alignment rather than fear, which can only cause further health issues.

Respecting collective goals doesn’t mean abandoning critical thought or personal values. Healthy environments allow for dialogue and nuance. When those are absent, towing the line becomes less about unity and more about keeping your silence. The injustice lies not in disagreement itself, but in the expectation that you must pretend to agree. Upholding your values, especially in the face of conformity, can be an act of quiet courage, and sometimes, the most respectful thing you can do is speak up.

You don’t have to pretend to be anybody apart from yourself. Now is the ideal time to reconnect with your authentic self and discover your life's purpose. Our bespoke journey together begins when you identify what you need help with overcoming to feel more effective in your life and empower your authentic voice.

My purpose is not to lecture you on anxiety, but to work together with you to discover a better approach that works for you, in the process of serving your body and mind. Once you choose where you want to begin your journey, together we will address the anxiety issues and reduce unwanted side effects. I will provide you with written materials to study and retain, as you gradually implement changes through practice. This will provide a personal source of alliance and support to enhance your anxiety recovery. I offer a complimentary introductory call, allowing you to assess our compatibility without any obligation. The common goal we share is to heal your anxiety and discover your authentic purpose before somebody finds one for you involving an external source of striving for external validation.

My Values & Mission Statement

At Anxiety Counselling Support, I believe that every individual deserves the freedom to live a life shaped by choice, not fear. My ethos is rooted in compassion, clarity, and empowerment, as I meet clients wherever they are in their journey with anxiety and guide them toward greater emotional resilience. Whether the struggle is acute panic, chronic worry, social anxiety, or trauma-related distress, I offer a safe, neuroscience-informed space where each experience is validated and explored with depth and care uniquely tailored to the individual client.

Beyond symptom relief, my mission is to help clients reclaim their voice, their true, unfiltered self, so that they can engage with life authentically and confidently. I see therapeutic work not as a luxury, but as a fundamental right to self-understanding and growth. Through integrative approaches and creative psychoeducation, I equip individuals with the tools to navigate uncertainty, reconnect with their values, and build a life that feels not only manageable but also meaningful with direction and purpose.

How would your life look with significantly reduced anxiety? A life without the fog of anxiety might feel spacious, grounded, and quietly confident, like stepping out of a storm into a calm, oriented future. Decisions would flow more freely, unclouded by second-guessing or fear of what-ifs.

The anxiety fog is a mental haze that clouds clarity, distorts perception, and makes even simple decisions feel overwhelming. It’s not just worry, it’s a full-body experience where thoughts race, focus slips, and everything feels urgent yet unreachable. Like walking through mist, you lose sight of what matters, second-guess your instincts, and feel disconnected from your inner compass. This fog thrives on fear and avoidance, but it begins to lift when we pause, breathe, and gently name what’s happening. In that moment of awareness, we reclaim a sliver of space and with it, the possibility of calmness. Once the mind is calm, you begin to develop authentic strength and empowerment.

Moving on begins with accepting that closure isn’t always about finding answers; it’s about reclaiming your energy from what no longer serves you. It means allowing yourself to feel the grief, control the anger, and tolerate the stress, without letting those emotions define you in your future. Instead of waiting for the past to change or for someone else to validate your healing, you choose to honour your growth, redirect your focus, and build something new. Moving on isn’t forgetting, it’s remembering with less pain, and stepping forward with more strength and courage.

You show up more fully in relationships, work, and creativity, guided by clarity rather than caution. Challenges will still arise, but be met with resilience instead of dread and overwhelm. Without anxiety’s constant background noise, your inner voice will speak more clearly, nudging you toward growth, connection, and joy that surpass your expectations.

I am an anxiety therapist in London & Berkshire with a wealth of experience in helping clients like you reconnect with their true direction in life. You're not alone, and you're not stuck once you discover integrative solution-focused therapy. Anxiety treatment often unfolds along two deeply interconnected paths: somatic and cognitive. Somatic approaches recognise that anxiety lives in the body as much as in the mind. Tight muscles, shallow breath, aching body, and a racing heart; these aren’t just symptoms to suppress; they’re signals of distress, asking to be heard. Somatic therapies, such as breathwork, progressive muscle relaxation, somatic experiencing, and mindful movement (like yoga), gently guide the nervous system back toward a state of safety. By reconnecting with physical sensations and releasing stored tension, clients often find that healing begins not with words, but with presence. It’s a compassionate invitation to feel safe in one’s own skin again and rediscover oneself.

Reframing the Cognition

In parallel, cognitive approaches untangle the mental knots that anxiety weaves, those looping worries, catastrophic thoughts, and rigid beliefs that keep people stuck with fear. Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) & (DBT) offer a structured, empowering way to notice these patterns and reshape them. Through techniques like cognitive restructuring, exposure therapy, and thought tracking, clients learn to challenge the stories anxiety tells and reclaim a sense of agency. While somatic work soothes the body’s alarm system, cognitive work brings clarity and choice to the mind. Together, they offer a holistic, human-centred path to healing, one that honours both the body’s wisdom and develops the mind’s resilience.

It is in confronting the thoughts that restrain us, the quiet narratives of doubts, fear, and conformity, that we will find our authentic selves. When we suppress our truth to fit into expectations or avoid discomfort, we lose sight of the expansive potential that lies just beyond those mental barriers, often feeling compelled to meet all expectations put upon us by others. True growth demands the courage to challenge internal limits, intrusive thoughts, and to honour our uniqueness, stepping into the fullness of who we are meant to be. Even if that involves some deep personal discovery to connect with who we truly are, the rewards are numerous and transformative over a lifetime.

A successful life is built on the integration of several key domains: health, relationships, purpose, personal growth, and joy. Physical and mental well-being form the foundation, enabling us to show up fully in our work and relationships. Meaningful connections with others foster a sense of belonging and emotional resilience, while a sense of purpose, whether through career, creativity, or service, provides direction and fulfilment. Personal growth, achieved through learning and self-reflection, enables us to evolve continually. Moments of joy, play, and rest replenish our energy and remind us of life’s beauty. There needs to be a personal reward above striving to survive, something that resonates within and navigates our direction of purpose.

Perfection in each area isn’t the goal; this might even be what's keeping you stuck. You don’t need to have all your ducks in a row to begin this journey. It’s the interplay between them that creates a life of depth and vitality. When our values align with our actions, and we nurture both our inner world and outer responsibilities, we experience a sense of coherence. Even during times of struggle, this balance helps us stay grounded and resilient. Success, then, becomes less about achievement and more about living with intention, connection, and authenticity. Living with this authentic balance will greatly reduce feelings of not being good enough, preventing intrusive thoughts, self-doubt and other aspects of your thinking that promote anxiety, resentment and restraint of never reaching your full potential. Once you know who you are, people pleasing for external validation falls away, and you begin to grow on intrinsic motivation.

At Anxiety Counselling Support, I offer solution-focused, strengths-based therapy and transformational coaching to help you reconnect with your purpose and regulate your emotions while moving forward with clarity and confidence.

Importantly, calmness isn’t just the absence of thought; it’s the presence of intentional awareness. By identifying your top values, simplifying your environment, and creating space for rest and reflection, you allow your nervous system to shift from sympathetic (fight-or-flight) to parasympathetic (rest-and-digest) dominance. This neurobiological shift fosters resilience, clarity, and a deeper sense of internal spaciousness, expanding your tolerance to stress.

As a BACP registered anxiety therapist in London & Berkshire and a member of the Counselling Directory, I believe that you are the expert of your own life. My role is to walk alongside you, guiding you through a journey of personal transformation using proven therapeutic techniques that focus on your strengths, values, and your unique vision for the future. Is it your time yet?

Why Choose Anxiety Counselling Support?

Therapy & Coaching for Adults Facing:

Generalised Anxiety & Panic Attacks

Social Anxiety, OCD & ADHD

Imposter Syndrome

Stress, Burnout & Emotional Dysregulation

Perfctionism & All-or-Nothing Thinking

Relationship Difficulties & Life Transitions

Low Confidence & Self-Esteem

Purpose, Motivation & Personal Growth

Therapy Approach:

Suppose anxiety has been our baseline since early life, maybe a troubled developmental background, woven into our routines, relationships, and internal narratives. In that case, it can feel less like a condition and more like a personality trait or worldview. We might call it “being driven,” “overthinking,” or “just how I am,” without realising that the constant vigilance, tension, or self-doubt we experience isn’t universal. In this way, anxiety becomes invisible by familiarity. It shapes how we interpret the world, but because it has always been there, we rarely question its existence.

Only when we encounter contrast moments of genuine calm, safety, or clarity do we begin to sense that something else is possible. Therapy, mindfulness, or even a supportive relationship can act like a mirror, reflecting how much strain we’ve been carrying. That recognition isn’t just cognitive; it’s somatic. The body, long held in a state of alert, begins to soften. In that softening, we don’t just learn what anxiety is; we learn who we are beneath it. My integrative approach blends evidence-based techniques from CBT, DBT, mindfulness, and solution-focused therapy. Sessions are tailored to your unique needs, fostering emotional resilience and practical, small, sustainable steps to change. Signs of what feelings bring about your anxiety have no doubt become a regular hindrance, a storm brewing within, where you know you will feel disconnected, isolated, and unpredictable.

You can develop an understanding of the signals your brain sends. Anxiety often involves an overactive threat system stemming from an overactive amygdala and the disengagement of the prefrontal cortex, throwing you into a disrupted sense of connection. In our work together, you gain a level of control over how anxiety affects you and how to decrease the undesirable effects in your body. Proven techniques are employed to calm the nervous system and promote a sense of peace. The more authentic alignment and somatic resetting you achieve in your regulation, the better you will feel.

The existential fear of ageing often arises not from the passage of time itself, but from the quiet erosion of identity, relevance, and perceived possibility. As youth fades, many grapple with the unsettling awareness that life’s open horizon narrows dreams deferred, roles shifting, and the body becoming a reminder of impermanence. Beneath the surface lies a deeper dread: that we might become invisible, disconnected, or trapped in routines that no longer reflect who we are. Yet, when acknowledged, this fear can also be a catalyst that invites us to reimagine ageing not as decline, but as a profound unfolding of wisdom, authenticity, and purpose.

Whether you're seeking clarity, healing, or transformation, therapy with me is a collaborative and empowering experience. Together, we’ll explore what’s missing, realign your life’s core elements, and work toward meaningful growth.

Find Your “Why” Overcome Your Critic

If the thought of Monday morning fills you with anxiety or emotional exhaustion, it’s more than just a case of the “Sunday evening blues.” Chronic dread, stemming from any aspect of your life, especially when accompanied by physical symptoms such as headaches, poor sleep, or irritability, often indicates a misalignment between your role and your values, strengths, or environment. When your job or any other aspect of your life consistently drains rather than energises you, it’s worth exploring the root of such stress.

Reshaping critical thoughts begins with self-awareness, recognising when your inner dialogue turns harsh, judgmental, or defeating. The inner critic often echoes old fears, unmet expectations, or internalised voices from the past. Instead of fighting it, pause and examine the evidence: What is this voice trying to protect you from? What assumptions is it making? Are they true or false? By naming the thought and gently challenging its validity, you create space for a more compassionate, balanced perspective. Reframing isn’t about blind positivity; it’s about truth-telling with kindness and acknowledging if we have moved on or need help to do so.

To remove the grip of the inner critic, replace it with an inner coach. This can be achieved with professional help from someone who speaks with encouragement, curiosity, and respect. Practice affirmations rooted in evidence: “I’m learning,” “I handled that with care,” or “I’m allowed to grow.” Surround yourself with voices that reflect your worth, and engage in activities that reinforce your strengths. Over time, the critic loses its power not because you silence it, but because you’ve built a louder, wiser new voice that knows your value and leads with self-trust.

When we allow ourselves to be vulnerable, we open the door to connection, healing, and authenticity. Still, we also risk being misunderstood, manipulated, or moulded into someone else's vision for us. In a world that often rewards conformity, vulnerability can become a magnet for those who seek to exploit it. They may project their expectations, impose their narratives, or subtly coerce us into roles that serve their comfort or ambition in swelling their ranks. The danger lies not just in being used, but in slowly losing sight of our own voice, our own rhythm, our own truth. An example of this is do with me what you will, often a part of a confirmation to a sect.

Yet vulnerability is not weakness; it is a sacred threshold. To protect it without hardening, we must learn to discern who honours our openness and who seeks to reshape it. The journey to self-discovery demands courage: resisting the pull of ticking others’ boxes, reclaiming our boundaries, and trusting that our authentic self is worth knowing, even if it doesn’t fit someone’s mould. When we choose to stand in our truth, we begin to rewrite the story not as a sacrifice to someone else's purpose, but as a living testament to our own ability.

When your purpose is unclear, even the most minor tasks feel overwhelming. But when your “why” is strong, effort becomes fuel, and obstacles become invitations to grow with my services as a personal development coach in London and Berkshire. Together, we can discover the unique qualities that make you who you truly are. Before diving into the “how,” let’s reconnect with your deeper reason for showing up.

Reflective Questions to Explore:

Why have you come to counselling?

What outcomes do you hope for?

What does a life worth living look like for you?

What brings you genuine joy?

How will you know you’re living beyond survival?

Practical Support solution-focused therapy

Low Self-Worth & Confidence

Explore the roots of low self-esteem

Build a positive self-image through self-compassion

Set achievable goals that foster self-worth

Perfectionism & Procrastination

Identify perfectionistic patterns

Develop time management

Gain motivational strategies

Celebrate progress over perfection

Navigating “Ifs and Buts” Thinking

Challenge catastrophic and hypothetical thinking

Build resilience and present-focused clarity

Finding Purpose & Connection

Explore personal values, interests, and passions

Engage in meaningful activities

Align your purpose

Strengthen self-awareness

Develop reflective practices

Anxiety & Relationships

Anxiety can deeply affect relationships, often through overthinking, excessive worry, mistrust and misinterpretation of neutral interactions.

From a neuroscience perspective, anxious attachment in relationships is deeply rooted in the brain’s threat detection and emotion regulation systems. The amygdala, our brain’s alarm centre, is hyperactive in individuals with anxious attachment, especially in response to perceived relational threats. Even subtle cues, such as a delayed text or a neutral facial expression, can trigger intense emotional reactions, as the brain interprets these signals as potential signs of abandonment. This heightened amygdala activity floods the system with cortisol, the stress hormone, creating a cascade of physiological responses that reinforce the urgency and fear associated with relational insecurity.

The prefrontal cortex, responsible for rational thought and emotional regulation, plays a crucial role in modulating these reactions. In securely attached individuals, it helps calm the amygdala and reframe relational cues more accurately. However, in those with anxious attachment, the connectivity between the prefrontal cortex and the amygdala is often weaker. This explains why logical self-talk or reassurance from a partner may fail to soothe the anxiety; it’s not just psychological, but neurobiological. Under stress, the prefrontal cortex can even go “offline,” leaving the individual overwhelmed by emotion and unable to access calming strategies.

Fortunately, the brain is plastic. Through consistent, emotionally safe relationships and therapeutic interventions, new neural pathways can be formed. Practices like mindfulness, journaling, and somatic regulation help strengthen the prefrontal cortex’s ability to downregulate threat responses. Oxytocin, the hormone that promotes bonding, also plays a role in reinforcing feelings of safety and connection. Over time, these experiences can reshape the brain’s relational circuitry, enabling individuals to transition from an anxious to a secure attachment style not by suppressing their emotional intensity, but by reprogramming how their brain perceives and responds to relational cues.

Therapy can help you build emotional regulation, improve communication, and reconnect with your authentic self and others.

Understanding Anxiety

Ever wonder why negative thoughts linger for years? Evolution hardwired us to focus on threats to survival. Anxiety is not a flaw in our design; it’s an ancient survival feature that once kept our ancestors alive. In prehistoric environments, hypervigilance to threats, social caution, and rapid fight-or-flight responses were adaptive traits, as they helped humans detect predators, avoid danger, and maintain group cohesion. However, in today’s world, where threats are often abstract, chronic, and social, such as deadlines, rejection, or uncertainty, this same system misfires. Our brains still react as if we’re facing lions in the grass, instead of unread emails or ambiguous glances. This mismatch creates an evolutionary trap: a once-helpful mechanism now triggers disproportionate distress, leaving us anxious in environments that no longer match our system’s original purpose.

The seven inner critics are internalised voices that aim to protect us but often do so through harsh self-judgment. These include the Perfectionist, Taskmaster, Inner Controller, Guilt Tripper, Underminer, Destroyer, and Moulder. Each critic has a distinct role: the Perfectionist demands flawlessness to avoid shame; the Taskmaster drives relentless productivity; the Inner Controller suppresses impulses; the Guilt Tripper enforces moral standards; the Underminer erodes confidence to prevent risk; the Destroyer attacks self-worth; and the Moulder pressures conformity. Though their methods can be damaging, they arise from early attempts to keep us safe, and with compassionate awareness, we can transform their messages into pathways for healing and growth.

Anxiety often hijacks our nervous system, locking us into survival mode where every sensation feels like a threat. In this state, we instinctively reach for avoidance, dodging discomfort, overthinking, numbing, or seeking control. These strategies offer temporary relief but reinforce the belief that anxiety is dangerous, something to escape. The trap deepens: the more we resist, the more anxiety persists. Our body remains hypervigilant, scanning for danger, while our mind loops through worst-case scenarios. This cycle can feel endless, exhausting, and leave us feeling isolated.

Claiming balance among all inner critics is essential because it transforms a hostile internal landscape into one of nuanced self-awareness and emotional regulation. Each critic, whether rooted in fear, perfectionism, shame, or comparison, carries a distorted survival strategy that is often inherited from our early experiences. When we acknowledge and integrate these voices rather than suppress or obey them, we activate the observing self: a compassionate, discerning part that can mediate between extremes. This balance allows us to extract useful insights without being hijacked by self-sabotage, fostering resilience, clarity, and a more authentic sense of self-worth.

The path to calm begins not with resistance, but with radical acceptance. When we allow anxiety to show up without judgment, resisting the urge to fix it, we interrupt the fear-avoidance loop by refusing to react or buy in.. Acceptance doesn’t mean liking anxiety; it means recognising it as a messenger, not a monster. By meeting it with curiosity and compassion, we signal safety to the nervous system. Over time, this rewires our response: anxiety becomes less threatening, and our capacity to stay grounded grows. Calmness isn’t the absence of anxiety; it’s the presence of self in the midst of it, confirming you are in control.

Adverse experiences demand more mental processing, and without support, it’s easy to become trapped. Solution-focused counselling helps you break free by reframing your mindset and reconnecting with your strengths, enabling you to live authentically. Life is not about finding yourself but creating yourself in your own wonderful colours.

It’s Time to Unlock

Your Full Potential

Your future depends

on three things:

1. Vision – Holding a clear image of what you want without distraction

2. Radical Acceptance – Building resilience by embracing what is now

3. Core Beliefs – Trusting in your ability to achieve and grow

If you’ve been living under stress for so long that joy feels distant, it’s time to reconnect with what truly matters. Whether it’s your career, relationships, health, or personal growth, when one area is misaligned, the others suffer.

What My Clients Say

"I felt heard, understood, and empowered to make real changes. The solution-focused approach helped me see progress from the very first session."

Client, London

"The blend of mindfulness and CBT gave me tools I still use daily. I finally feel like myself again."

Client, Berkshire

📞 Ready to Begin?

David Pender – Anxiety Therapist & Transformation Coach


📍 Central London Practices Near London Bridge & Kings Cross
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David Pender Anxiety Counselling in London
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